Yeah but the GDP grows by 80Bn

None of which makes the distro shite. The things I remember them getting shit for are:

Unity/mir

Upstart

Snaps

Amazon ads

Advertising their premium version.

Of all of those the Amazon thing is the only one I have a strong objection to. The rest I can’t say I’ve even particularly noticed the changes if I’m honest and most other Ubuntu users probably haven’t either. They seem to get a lot of crap for “doing their own thing all the time” which seems odd coming from the Linux community.

I came to Ubuntu initially because it was the new hotness, I’ve never really had an issue with it functionally in 12 years or so, so no real need to change.

Why not deb? Why not any number of other distros? I do run deb on my NAS as it goes and I’m not trying to stan for Ubuntu (honestly) but it gets a lot of undeserved hate. It’s not a super exciting distro or anything but it tends to work fine for me.

You can even plug em into your phone and transfer from there, super handy on the go.

Really? They did a ton of work to make Linux accessible to the masses, have an active and helpful community to help out if you get stuck, works really well out of the box on most hardware and you’re pretty much guaranteed there’s going to be a compatible deb available for it if you’re looking for software outside normal repos. Seems like a no brainer tbh.

You’re surprised the most popular desktop distro is still around?

I cannot believe the downvoting coming your way for this.

On one - how the abuse of this cannot be foreseen by the most clueless person is beyond me.

On two - are people under the impression that the current child welfare system is adequate for the children that are currently in it? What about that system makes them think it would be suitable to increase the number of children in care.

Fucking mental.

Amazing stuff, the devs were a decent bunch too, I distinctly remember pestering a dev to create a save game loader that would write saves from a disk to a vmu on the irc channel for wraggster’s dcemu forum. Might have to dig out my old Dreamcast if it still lives.

Plex too fwiw.

Ah mate, that was a great community back in the day.

Any colour I should be using?

In what sense have they given up on the US re: tech?

And provide a succinct list of talking points and responses to chat to people at work about?

It could be, alternatively if the company goes out of business tomorrow you lose.

The question you need to ask yourself is how it will do vs other options, I’m no investor by any means but I’d be wondering:

a) would an index fund beat it long term (historically you might see 7% annual gains on a fund that tracks NYSE over the same period)

b) why is it trading below its face value - everyone has the same information about this bond in theory, therefore bond traders are aware of the same thing, if it was a great deal it would be in demand and the price would rise. So someone more experienced than us has accounted for the return and the risk/reward for them says $80 is right.

c) does it beat inflation - $450 payoff seems nice now (assuming you save up all those $5s) 30 years ago it would’ve seemed even better, but $100 in 1997 has the spending power of $200 today - in 70 years time the $450 might have the equivalent spending power of $100 today. Which is to say your real terms return may only be $20 over 70 years.

Coupon rate is paid on the principal - assuming the hundo is accurate then it’s $5/yr. If you think Motorola will be around in 14 years then you’d have your investment back. If you think they’ll be around in another 70 years you get $350 + $100 because when it matures they need to repay the bond.

Exactement!

What are you trying to model? It’s far from unusable.

FreeCAD isn’t terrible, especially since v1, it’s rough round the edges at times, but definitely usable.

You remind me of Clarke’s third law, even in my own head this sounds a bit waffely but at the point one of them can fool all of us all the time how do we distinguish it from intelligence or something.

Okay, now airbus do freecad.

OH MY GOD THERE ARE BEARS SHITTING IN THE WOODS!