• Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I hate Tik Tok and also hate copyright disputes but can’t help but smile when these big corporations have arguments over money and people start taking sides, like Tik Tok or Universal cares about any of their customers.

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      9 months ago

      Why would having a personal interest or maybe a legal opinion rely at all on whether the companies care for you?

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        9 months ago

        Who said you can’t have an opinion? You can write a paper on the case for all I care just don’t pretend corporations are our friends, or god forbid feel sorry for Tik Tok.

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          9 months ago

          The top level comment said it was ridiculous that anyone would take a side. So while they didn’t say you couldn’t have any opinion, but that you were ridiculous for having one.

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              9 months ago

              Then they should make it more clear, because that certainly is not clear from what they said.

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          9 months ago

          The people who created the modern form of chess are long since dead, so they don’t have any idea of my existence at all. Yet I still enjoy playing chess. Should I not enjoy the game because the people who created it don’t care about me at all?

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            9 months ago

            The inventor of chess can’t do anything that affects your life any more. Companies can, and do.

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              9 months ago

              No matter how far we move the goal posts, I’m still going to base what I enjoy on what I enjoy, and not on what corporations are doing or not doing. I find it a bit sad that people would let what entity controls something to dictate their enjoyment of it.

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                9 months ago

                I enjoyed Reddit, but then they started doing things I didn’t agree with, so I left.

                I used to want a Tesla, but I’d rather not support someone like Elon Musk, so I won’t get one.

                I used to love songs by a certain band, and then the lead singer turned out to be a pedophile, so I stopped listening to the music because it was no longer enjoyable.

                Sometimes you’ve got to vote with your wallet, or your attention, or whatever affects the relevant party. Companies definitely affect you, and I don’t think it’s wrong to make decisions based on things other than just enjoyment.

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                  9 months ago

                  I ultimately agree here that you should vote with your wallet. I never said nor suggested that one should make decisions solely on what they enjoy.

                  The top level comment was about how people are “taking sides” and that is ridiculous because the companies don’t care for people. My original point was that someone might have a personal interest in the matter or an informed legal opinion, and might take a side based on these things.

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                  9 months ago

                  Your account is 2 months older than mine. What’s your point?

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    9 months ago

    this is everything awful about the modern internet. i hate that they can just go and retroactively destroy creations like this. imagine if someone lost the rights to a song and they forced you to send the cassette back

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      9 months ago

      Imagine comparing free social media to a physical copy of media that you purchased.

      Are you high?

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    9 months ago

    Universal music owns the rights to Remember (walking in the sand) by the Shangri-las.

    Oh no.

    Oh no.

    Oh no no no no no.

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      9 months ago

      Probably not, the internet seems to think that fair use is much broader than it actually is in practice. The use of copyright materials to produce a work which relies entirely on those materials is not covered when no editorial value is created by the second work. Lipsyncing isn’t parody, essentially.

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    9 months ago

    Controversial take but…

    Yes, tiktok has several serious glaring issues as a platform but being such an absolutely huge platform, it has been (for a while now) much more than teen dance app. It’s a platform that under represented and minority groups have found an audience to share their voice. The are legit journalists, artists, celebrities, organizations, dank memers, etc using the platform for good.

    Obv it would be great if it wasn’t all on tiktok (isn’t there a federated equivalent?) but seeing people rejoice wherever something bad happens to the platform just lacks… nuance I guess. I know it’s hard to compare social media platforms, but from what I can tell it’s one of the less controlling, censor heavy platforms. And it’s not owned by Elon Musk lol

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      9 months ago

      definitely. it’s a uniquely bad and insidious platform, but at the same time there’s still good and important content on there you’d never see anywhere else. people are too quick to dismiss it because they haven’t tried to tailor the algorithm to what they want properly and assume it’s all shitty dance videos