Poisoned AI went rogue during training and couldn’t be taught to behave again in ‘legitimately scary’ study::AI researchers found that widely used safety training techniques failed to remove malicious behavior from large language models — and one technique even backfired, teaching the AI to recognize its triggers and better hide its bad behavior from the researchers.

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    9 months ago

    AI systems in the future, since it helps us understand how difficult they might be to deal with," lead author Evan Hubinger, an artificial general intelligence safety research scientist at Anthropic, an AI research company, told Live Science in an email.

    The media needs to stop falling for this. This is a “pre-print,” aka a non-peer-reviewed paper, published by the AI company itself. These companies are quickly learning that, with the AI hype, they can get free marketing by pretending to do “research” on their own product. It doesn’t matter what the conclusion is, whether it’s very cool and going to save us or very scary and we should all be afraid, so long as its attention grabbing.

    If the media wants to report on it, fine, but don’t legitimize it by pretending that it’s “researchers” when it’s the company itself. The point of journalism is to speak truth to power, not regurgitate what the powerful say.

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      It’s also worth noting that this is one of the few companies that already has its foot in the door. AI panic and hasty legislation would essentially close that door right behind them.

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      When you’re creating something new, production is research. We can’t expect Dr. Frankenstein to be unbiased, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have insights worth knowing.

      LLM are pretty new, how many experts even exist outside of the industry?

      Standards for journalism are impossibly low. Standards for media criticism don’t exist.

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    9 months ago

    ‘went rogue’ is a bit of an alarmist way to say ‘typed scary text’

    i’d love to see an AI that could legitimately scare me

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    I hold that this is true of all neural-nets, organic as well as silicon:

    Once a person has sided with treachery, rooting it out from one’s unconscious-mind is … enduringly difficult, if not intractable.

    I don’t know how many decades it takes to eradicate the roots of it, if it can be done, at all:

    the unconscious-mind mechanism, that-is the Kahneman System-1 ( from “Thinking Fast & Slow” ) imprint is going to still be there, even if overlaid with another imprint ( since mind is holographic/pattern-imprints in function ).

    Worse, it is the motivation that need change, and motivation is of ego, which is of identity, so many who “reform” only do-so superficially.

    I’m not saying this as some goody-2-shoes, I’m saying this as a person who was raised by narcissists, and therefore embodied much narcissism, and class-prejudice ( dad was a doctor: you can’t get more upper-middle-class status-prejudiced than doctor-culture )…

    …who finally cracked the root kernel of the class-prejudice in my unconscious-mind’s identity-crystal at the end of a 25d hard-line fast, out in the bush.

    It took that to fracture the identity-crystal’s prejudice.

    It’s been a decade since then, & I’m still fighting to eradicate its treachery from my nature.

    Neural-nets are tough to purge, or clean-up & make upright.

    MUCH easier to keep a neural-net pristine through all of its formation, than to try ( endlessly failing ) to clean it up, after it’s become enemy-intent in “family” clothing.

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