Nah, I think we just need a dialog box - could be like osx - “are you sure you want to allow the plugin that you said you wanted to use? It was built by: you, not signed by Mozilla.” Maybe put a “You have unsigned plugins running” tool tip - that gets displayed at startup or every 8 hours.

Again - imagine if you couldn’t install the programs you wanted on your computer - this is current firefox.

I suppose we are both beating the already-dead-horse on different ends now.

Yeah pretty much

Lol

Again. You are saying you shouldn’t be able to install applications on your computer.

I mean, if that’s what you believe. I don’t. I think I should be able to decide what I run and where I run it.

Especially if the company thinks of itself as open source.

Doesn’t work. Try to do it without giving them a phone number or installing some other application. You can’t. Or I couldn’t.

Then, after you can’t and you think, “I’ll go to the forums, see if there is a way.” You’ll find out Mozilla has problems with sign in. I mean come on… But this is irrelevant, this whole flow is dumb. And it presumes that I shouldn’t be able to control my own browser.

We need a new firefox - just like the original firefox showed that Mozilla was bloat and dumb, we need another that shows the current is bloat and dumb.

I understand what you are saying - but - if I want to install a program on my computer - I should be allowed to do so - the same with firefox — maybe it might need me doing the equivalent of sudo, entering some password - or just clicking through, “ok, yes I know, extensions can do bad things.”, “yes I really know that I shouldn’t install an extension if I don’t know exactly what it is” 10 times, but — etc…

I just don’t buy the “attack vector” argument. There are many ways to mitigate, without removing the ability.

Anyway, in a way this was a good experience - I am going to try to ditch firefox sooner than later now.

I wrote myself a little plugin for firefox.

It runs nice, and I want to install it permanently. It does something I want.

Can I? No. Why? Because Firefox… Apparently I’m not adult enough to control my own browser. WTF.

I have to either get their developer build or become a developer with an account. WTF.

So I think, I don’t want their developer build, I just want this plugin— I make a mozilla plugin developer account- because apparently that’s how I’m supposed to do it- I try to create the plugin upload —

Can I? No. Why? Because they want my phone number before I can make a plugin just for myself. WTF.

So - I ask ChatGPT if there is any work around for this, can it search, I just want to run my own plugin, I don’t want the developer build, I don’t want the developer account, I just want to run my own plugin- ChatGPT says it can’t help me because I’m not adhering to Firefox’s EULA. WTF.

So I give up on the plugin - and today, I just happen to notice Mozilla silently turned on SYNC for my web history for that fucking Mozilla plugin developer account. So I guess I’m sending them everything I ever do on the web. WTF.

I go and try to find out what information they’ve stolen from me, can I find it? No. The have some link, to another link, to another link, to another link, which eventually ends up on some page where I can ask them to pretty please send me what information they stole. Why can I not see this without writing a letter! WTF.

WTF WTF WTF. I hate Mozilla.

Please let them burn in software hell.

/rant

This.