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Check out their matrix https://pine64.org/community/

One of our co-hosts on the Lugcast got one and gave a little review of it. Star Labs responded in the comments https://youtu.be/0MG8c5HJew4?si=UnGhLtcWBkJG2D4M

Used to be CentOS until the stream debacle. Now Debian.

I am using Kinoite for quite a while now and not once did layering break anything.

That’s great for you. Not everyone may use their distro in the same way as you.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/is-silverblue-rpm-ostree-intended-to-be-used-with-layered-packages/26162/2 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-silverblue-36-will-not-succesfully-deploy-after-layering-packages/77502/3 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/991 https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4280

Not to mention the whole Firefox debacle of including an outdated borked version based with the system install instead of just moving to Flatpak install of most recent stable release. There’s a very valid reason why package layering is discouraged by atomic maintainers and why toolbox is there by default as part of OS. And don’t even get me started on DKMS and driver installation.

So, the points in favor of Kinoite is sticking closer to upstream, however it seems like I would need to layer quite a few packages. My understanding is that this is discouraged in an rpm-ostree setup, particularly due to update time and possible mismatches with RPMFusion

It’s not only discouraged but often times it’s system breaking. I used Kinoite for a year before I just became too frustrated and gave up. The first thing I learned though was to stay away from package layering because it tended to break things more often than not. Basically if you can’t find or build a flatpak and you don’t want to use toolbox all the time, just stick with workstation. Immutable is great when deploying to multiple servers or locked-down corporate workstations, but it makes no sense for your personal setup especially if you’re already familiar with Linux.

I know about it. It’s pretty popular, so much in fact that you can buy a wide range of routers with it preinstalled.