• Orygin@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    And?
    Because the term AI was not in vogue at the time, even though it’s clearly the same technology, it doesn’t count? It’s literally packaged under the same umbrella now.

    Anyway, the big issue is still tech ppl thinking their viewpoint is the only one valid, and that every generic user will have the same exact needs as them.

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        3 hours ago

        Not all these arguments no.
        You’re defending your position that this AI feature is not really AI so it’s ok, but the others are all bad because of the two letters of the devil.
        Still AI is a marketing term, always has been. AI in the form of machine learning has been around for more than a decade, and lots of things already use that.
        The knee jerk reaction of tech circles saying mozilla will sell their soul because there is no “kill switch” is so fucking dumb. Even more dumb is thinking no other users may want any of these features. Unless you work at Mozilla, and/or do product research for browsers, chances are you most likely have no idea how people will want to use these features in their day to day.
        Even working on one’s own product in a company, few really understand the users needs and wants, especially tech persons.
        I can guarantee you, the weird gimmick you don’t understand is crucial to some.

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          You’re defending your position that this AI feature is not really AI so it’s ok

          I literally say “The translation is technically AI,” so no. I give reasons how the other features are different, which you seem to acknowledge a little, at least.

          the weird gimmick you don’t understand is crucial to some

          Can you describe how to access the gimmick and which people find it crucial? I’m pretty confident in my understanding of it and how hilariously unhelpful it is.

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            3 hours ago

            Being technically something implies it’s not really or to be considered apart from the group.

            The “gimmick” is proposing alt text based on the image when editing PDFs. I don’t see how it’s unhelpful. I’m not into editing PDFs in firefox, but I do use it to read them.
            Inciting editors to include an alt text for accessibility seems like the ideal use case for this tech. The human still has to review and approve the generated text.
            Unless I missed something as I cannot try the feature now, it seems to me a great application of ai, to augment humans in their work, and to a useful cause.
            Image classification and description is “old” tech now, and I already use it in my work to auto tag images for editors to find more easily later. Nothing crazy.

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              2 hours ago

              The “gimmick” is proposing alt text based on the image when editing PDFs. I don’t see how it’s unhelpful.

              A gambling toolbar that links to Polymarket could be helpful. But I think we both said “crucial”.

              If you know someone who uses Firefox to add images to PDFs so often that the alt text generation would be crucial to them, or even more than a gimmick, please introduce me to them. I have so many burning questions. Several things related to “why not a dedicated PDF editor?!”