“There’s no way to get there without a breakthrough,” OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said, arguing that AI will soon need even more energy.

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    10 months ago

    So AI can’t exist without stealing people’s content and it can’t exist without using too much energy. Why does it exist then?

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    10 months ago

    Or we could stop this ridiculous llm “ai” trend and move towards sustainable living like our hyper-waste society

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      10 months ago

      These comments often indicate a lack of understanding about ai.

      Ml algorithms have been in use for nearly 50 years. They certainly become much more common since about 2012, particularly with the development of CUDA, It’s not just some new trend or buzz word.

      Rather, what we starting to see are the fruits of our labour. There are so many really hard problems that just cannot be solved with deductive reasoning.

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        10 months ago

        It’s simultaneously possible to realize that something is useful while also recognizing the damage that its trend is causing from a sustainability standpoint, and that neither realization particularly demonstrates a lack of understanding about AI.

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          10 months ago

          The lack of knowledge comes from thinking the damage is outpacing it’s usefulness. It simply isn’t.

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    10 months ago

    It’s called nuclear energy. It was discovered in 1932 and properly harnessed with an effective reactor that consumes both radioactive material and waste (CANDU) in 1950’s/1960’s and the newest CANDU reactors are some of the safest and most efficient energy generation in the world.

    Pretending like there needs to be a larger investment into something like cold fusion in order to run these computers is incredibly dishonest or presenting a clear hole in education coverage. (The DoE should still work on researching cold fusion, but not because of this.)

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, nuclear has been available and in use over the period of the sharpest increase in co2 emissions. It’s not responsible for it, but it’s not the answer. The average person can’t harness nuclear energy. But all the renewable energies in the world can fit on a small house: wind, solar, hydro. Why bring radioactive materials into this?

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          10 months ago

          But why continue to rely on a system of profit that is being run like a mob, being split into distinct territories where “free market capitalism” can’t even allow us to not get gouged by profit seekers? Why not generate our own power? Why not 100% renewables? Like I said, why bring radioactive materials into this? For that matter, why bring capitalism into it?

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            10 months ago

            My comment was referring to when you mentioned the average person not being able to harvest nuclear energy as an argument against it.

            I’m 100% for broad solar adaptation and even laws forcing new homes to be built with them. The other renewables you mention aren’t harvestable by the average person either sadly.

            I think nuclear is an important tool for running clean societies. Industries need a lot of power and I can also see mini reactors being bought by small towns for their citizens. It has its uses when the renewables aren’t pheasible but the best is always solar or wind farms and hydro for sure.

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    10 months ago

    How about an efficiency breakthrough instead? Our brains just need a meal and can recognize a face without looking at billions of others first.

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      10 months ago

      We still need to look at quite a few. And the other billions have been pre-programmed by a couple of billion years of evolution.