oh I see plenty of NEWS about AI that’s negative, but it’s not ‘journalists trying to make people afraid’ it’s people incensed because there’s a data center making them deaf, raising their water and power costs, or the entire technology making components more expensive.
trying to make you afraid of AI lol… get fucked
show me one good upside from all those downsides that justifies it.
Again… I am not in support of corporate owned models running on massive datacenters… Self-hosted models are the way to go.
My only argument is that AI is not going away, and once enough negative public sentiment is achieved, civilians will DEMAND that the government regulate it. When this happens, self-hosting will cease to be an option and only massive corporations will have the resources to navigate that landscape.
They will still use AI to displace human workers, they will lobby around any environmental concerns and still consume and pollute, but WE will have no access to any benefit unless we pay for it.
show me one good upside from all those downsides that justifies it.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF?
It’s not going away because twats and useful idiots assume it’s inevitable because someone with a RAFT of financial incentives has convinced you it’s inevitable and you believed them.
you’re worried about improbable hypotheticals while the whole thing is the issue and it’s cooking the planet
Sure thing Nostradamus… There are a hundred things you do every day that consume more water and power than datacenters… But I’m guessing you haven’t actually looked at any numbers yourself…
6,600,000,000 liters… So, 0.17% of our annual global water usage… With the absolute worst case doomsday future prediction of reaching 7%… What a catastrophe…
And I don’t need to justify anything…either:
A) AI is an unprecedented paradigm shifting technology that changes human evolution forever; and opposing it is as short-sighted as opposing the wheel, the printing press, or antibiotics.
Or
B) AI is simply the next step in computer data processing; and opposing it is as emotionally irrational as opposing a new programming language, operating system, or semiconductor layout just because it’s unfamiliar to you.
You have no rational basis for your opinion; it seems like you just don’t understand / haven’t interacted with the technology. You have been manipulated by an emotionally charged narrative and you don’t even realize it. Seems like the only thing being “trained” to the world’s detriment here is you.
it hasn’t delivered any of that, and it’s eating WAY more potable water than your measly figures.
you’re simply in the cult and can’t see anything outside, so assume everyone else is deluded. I provided you with a raft of links illustrating the problem and you call me ignorant.
Back up your garbage position with evidence if it’s so easy!
Are you dating a bot? Is that why this is so painful?
You’re being trained to defend something that will never love you lol
It’s ok to admit you didn’t actually read the sources you quoted…
Look, I get it… I’m a leftist, and I know that anything anti-capitalism is en vogue right now; but some of us have been at this for a very long time… long enough to understand the importance of nuance and technical detail.
If you can separate your emotion from the issue I’m happy to have an intelligent discussion, but if you’re going to continue falling back onto charged language and hyperbole I’m not interested.
oh I see plenty of NEWS about AI that’s negative, but it’s not ‘journalists trying to make people afraid’ it’s people incensed because there’s a data center making them deaf, raising their water and power costs, or the entire technology making components more expensive.
trying to make you afraid of AI lol… get fucked
show me one good upside from all those downsides that justifies it.
Again… I am not in support of corporate owned models running on massive datacenters… Self-hosted models are the way to go.
My only argument is that AI is not going away, and once enough negative public sentiment is achieved, civilians will DEMAND that the government regulate it. When this happens, self-hosting will cease to be an option and only massive corporations will have the resources to navigate that landscape.
They will still use AI to displace human workers, they will lobby around any environmental concerns and still consume and pollute, but WE will have no access to any benefit unless we pay for it.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF?
It’s not going away because twats and useful idiots assume it’s inevitable because someone with a RAFT of financial incentives has convinced you it’s inevitable and you believed them.
you’re worried about improbable hypotheticals while the whole thing is the issue and it’s cooking the planet
Sure thing Nostradamus… There are a hundred things you do every day that consume more water and power than datacenters… But I’m guessing you haven’t actually looked at any numbers yourself…
Go off queen!
sure thing sparky. you still haven’t replied to SHOW ME ONE GOOD UPSIDE THAT JUSTIFIES IT. keep changing the subject.
https://www.slashgear.com/1994908/meta-ai-data-centers-affecting-water-supply-in-multiple-states/
https://www.npr.org/2025/05/07/1249592906/energy-water-ai-climate-tech
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2026/01/11/americas-ai-boom-is-running-into-an-unplanned-water-problem/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0043135426005488
https://time.com/article/2026/06/03/ai-global-water-resources-un-report/
so self hosted avoids all that?
no it just distributes it and makes it less effective, and, you still have to train it, where the massive portion of power and water is used.
and it’s probably still built on stolen everything.
6,600,000,000 liters… So, 0.17% of our annual global water usage… With the absolute worst case doomsday future prediction of reaching 7%… What a catastrophe…
And I don’t need to justify anything…either:
A) AI is an unprecedented paradigm shifting technology that changes human evolution forever; and opposing it is as short-sighted as opposing the wheel, the printing press, or antibiotics.
Or
B) AI is simply the next step in computer data processing; and opposing it is as emotionally irrational as opposing a new programming language, operating system, or semiconductor layout just because it’s unfamiliar to you.
You have no rational basis for your opinion; it seems like you just don’t understand / haven’t interacted with the technology. You have been manipulated by an emotionally charged narrative and you don’t even realize it. Seems like the only thing being “trained” to the world’s detriment here is you.
you really are deluded!
it hasn’t delivered any of that, and it’s eating WAY more potable water than your measly figures.
you’re simply in the cult and can’t see anything outside, so assume everyone else is deluded. I provided you with a raft of links illustrating the problem and you call me ignorant.
Back up your garbage position with evidence if it’s so easy!
Are you dating a bot? Is that why this is so painful?
You’re being trained to defend something that will never love you lol
Those figures are from the sources YOU shared…
It’s ok to admit you didn’t actually read the sources you quoted…
Look, I get it… I’m a leftist, and I know that anything anti-capitalism is en vogue right now; but some of us have been at this for a very long time… long enough to understand the importance of nuance and technical detail.
If you can separate your emotion from the issue I’m happy to have an intelligent discussion, but if you’re going to continue falling back onto charged language and hyperbole I’m not interested.