• zerofk@lemmy.zip
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    The risk for both general and corporate business users far outweighs any minor inconveniences of moving to a new OS version.

    Minor inconveniences like HAVING TO BUY A WHOLE NEW FUCKING COMPUTER.

    These people live in a fantasy world.

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      Other minor inconveniences may include:

      • AI spyware on systems (a very real issue with corporate and government machines)
      • Legacy software not working in the new OS
      • A drastic decrease in OS productivity
      • Damage to hardware (potential as reported)
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    My work computer is on W11. Notifications got much worse, and moved to a harder-to-reach shortcut. There’s a persistent bug with maximization, in which many forms of apps will suddenly take over the region normally reserved for the taskbar (no, I’m not referring to full screen modes) that so far as I can tell can only be fixed by logging out.

    The UI is worse, making settings pages even more confusing. Windows Explorer has dived deep into iconography, while still not being clear about what those icons mean. The new context menus are missing options, so they need an extra one to go back to W10’s options.

    This is of course setting aside their blatant lies about “It’s not spyware we promise we promise”, among so many other hundreds of problems. I’m doomed to stay on W10 for now to finish a project, but afterwards, I’ll be finding a distro I prefer.

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    • Worse drivers.
    • More bloat.
    • More “telemetry” (spyware and adware).
    • It breaks a ton of the systems I’ve had to implement by sheer force.

    Why the FUCK would I do that? Just to give microsoft more money? Go and FUCK yourself.

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    I’m upgrading to Debian 13 instead, since 13 is bigger number than 11 so obviously it’s better

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          Not really, the prospect of getting my own computer at all brought immense excitement and i didn’t know what words like “operating system” and “software” even meant.

          I can imagine it though since i got comfortable with using the terminal, a gui feels more and more like bloat.

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          I do, but that’s because windows 95 was a lot less stable than 3.1(1). It deserved the hate it got and wasn’t really ready until Windows 98 came out.

          A good chunk of people went from 3.1(1) to 98.

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              The kernel change in WinXP really helped stability. It was certainly easy to have a bad install with any of them though.

              Win98 SE was my personal “best experience” with Windows, with WinXP a close second. (Though this likely has to do with the hardware and tasks I was experiencing at the time.)

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      This is why I upgraded my Windows 10 laptop to a Fedora 42 one. 42 is obviously the biggest. And thusly better than Debian.

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      Jokin’ aside, I am thinking to upgrading to forky (14), if it gets newer Nvidia drivers, because of a single issue I have with Wayland on Plasma (that is X applications flickering like crazy). Alternatively upgrading just kernel and nvidia drivers (to testing or sid) if it is possible without breaking whole system.

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      You’ll likely need to purge your Nvidia drivers after upgrading to 13, I had two machines fail to start NvidiaPersistence.d.service (or something like that) which caused the machines to fail on boot-up.

      Reinstalled the drivers with sudo apt install nvidia-driver nvidia-cuda-dev nvidia-cuda-toolkit if you’re looking for raytracing don’t forget to install libnvoptix1.

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    I converted to Linux as soon as one of the shit Windows 11 updates bricked my 5-year old laptop that was working fine previously.

    Kubuntu 4 lyfe! ✌️🤪

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    I moved to Linux thanks to their enshittification. I’m kicking myself I didn’t do it years ago. Linux is how an OS should be.

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      Imo, even taking away the spying thing, windows design is just awful and they somehow manage to pile up fuckups and poor choices as they release new OSs.

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        It pretty much comes down to wanting to monetize the user experience instead of simply wanting to charge for the OS in the traditional way. The user becomes the commodity instead of the software.

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    They’re not trying to get me to upgrade my OS, they’re trying to get me to buy a whole new fucking system for no good reason. Every last one of them can die in a fire.

    And that’s before we consider that Windows 11 is actually a downgrade.

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    They can’t convince me to switch to Win 11 because apparently my computer isn’t good enough.

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    I mean, it’s windows 10, but worse

    • If you have 8gb or less of RAM, it’s constantly swapping and trash your SSD

    • It always needs to automatically install the fucking updates in the background hogging the CPU and SSD time when you actually need to work/play

    • When they introduce bugs, they take years to fix them. The taskbar took 3 years to be restored to features that were present since windows 95. One year ago they introduced a new bug that with some display port monitors, when it goes in standby, the resolution switches for a second to 640*480, trashing all windows and desktop layout, super infuriating. Probably this will be fixed in windows 12

    Plus with all their decision to force people to trash millions of perfectly working computers… I know many they just give up on personal computers and just use phones/tablet as it’s enough for them

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    My work computer had to be upgraded to 11

    Why does my fucking file explorer stop responding so much?

    I don’t understand how they fucked this up so badly

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      Me too. Had been wanting to switch to linux for some time and Windows 11 gave me the final push and it went a lot smoother than expected.