• DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Same for searching: “did Elon Musk make a nazi salute?” Only got a response when I replaced “nazi salute” with “offensive gesture”. Ok google

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      fuck me. i don’t know why people still use google search; it was shit even before all this. jumped ship years ago.

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        5 days ago

        What are you using now? I’ve been toying with kagi for a while, but the idea of having to use an account that ties all my searches to me doesn’t sit well with my sense of privacy, and none of the others get results remotely close to google.

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          i disagree. Google’s results went to shit for me years ago. the first page was literally just ads, sponsored links that had nothing to do with my search or looked like what i was looking for but were phishing/malware sites, regular results that were less about what i searched and more about what google found more appropriate for me.

          i started to use duckduckgo despite its incredibly stupid name and it’s just like old times for me. except now it has AI assist which you can turn off or set how often you want to see it.

          two things that helped sell me DDG was bangs and DDG browser. i got used to using DDG browser as default on mobile except for things i wanted to have persistent sessions on, which are very rare it turns out. bangs also help you directly search specific sites or even google in the unlikely event i would want to try to search that monstrosity instead. if you search for something and you don’t find what you want and want to try Google instead, just add !g to the search and it directs you to Google search instead. !gi for Google images.

          there are tons of other bangs, like !w for Wikipedia and !imdb for… you’ll never guess but i use it sometimes.

        • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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          Duckduckgo is the “change in 5 seconds” answer. Its better but still problematic somewhat. The search results are at least a ton better though.

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            Thanks, maybe time to try again. I used it years ago but the results were not great.

    • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      The most tremendous dementia they have seen. The greatest people have looked at me and said it’s the biggest, greatest case they have seen. The biggest of all time.

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      6 days ago

      This is so succinctly Trump. 😂 Bravo! Really captures the essence in one and a half sentences.

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        I’ve been a Kagi user for over a year and I usually hate AI summaries. Though I must say I love how Kagi has implemented them as it gives sources where it found the info so you can dig deeper and see if what it said was actually correct.

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          Their AI is pretty good, both assistant and search summaries. Been using it extensively as it actually provides correct and objective information (at least more often than others). It is also privacy-first, so you don’t get those annoying personality shifts as with like GPT.

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          Kagi’s summaries are great.

          They’re hidden by default, requiring you to click the button first. They don’t extrapolate too much. And their sources will be the exact same links you got from the search.

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            5 days ago

            I just put a question mark at the end and it does it automatically. Works like a charm.

    • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      5 days ago

      I use mojeek, and startpage sometimes. Ddg is too influenced now, they do the same stuff Google does. Brave is run by people who hate LGBT people so I can’t support them in good conscience.

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        5 days ago
        The post is likely referring to a long-standing controversy around Brendan Eich, the founder and CEO of Brave (the browser and search engine company). In 2008, Eich donated $1,000 to support California's Proposition 8, a ballot measure that banned same-sex marriage (later overturned by courts). This came to light in 2014 when he was briefly appointed CEO of Mozilla, leading to widespread backlash from employees, users, and activists who viewed it as anti-LGBTQ+. Eich resigned from Mozilla after just 11 days amid the outcry, expressing regret for causing pain but not fully recanting his views.
        
        Some people, including in the LGBTQ+ community and allies, continue to avoid or criticize Brave on these grounds, seeing it as support for leadership with historically discriminatory stances. This isn't a "new" issue in 2025—it's tied to events from over a decade ago—but it persists in discussions about ethical tech choices. Brave has faced other unrelated controversies (e.g., ad practices), but this one specifically relates to anti-LGBT perceptions.
        
        For more details:
        - [Wikipedia on Brendan Eich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich)
        - [Article on the Mozilla controversy](https://www.osnews.com/story/27646/the-new-mozilla-ceos-political-past-is-imperiling-his-present/)
        - [Recent discussion on Brave controversies](https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/)
        - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43300333
        

        well fuck! brave is the one browser that fits all my needs.

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    This is probably payback for letting them off the hook on the monopoly suits. Expect more “payback” as they manipulate the narrative.

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    For fucks sake! Who really cares what Google’s shitty AI does? You can still search articles written by actual human beings. Has AI become so fundamental to our daily routine that we’re going to upset ourselves over what info the sleazeballs that created it allow it to produce?

    Maybe try reading real information?

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    Ok, so don’t look for an AI response? Sure, Google censoring results is shit, google NOT censoring results about the same query about Biden is even shittier, but you still get search results about the question.

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        Kagi does provide a good experience but it can never replace the free search engines. It relies pretty heavily on Google’s search API it just allows you to massage the results with tools Google took away.

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          Kagi uses Bing as its primary search index AFAIK, so no Google search API there.

          That said, it does run entirely on Google Cloud Services, which I personally find ironic.

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            So what your saying is it doesn’t rely on just one but two massive corps to actually deliver it’s product which is ment to be an alterative to those very products?

            Kek

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      If you don’t mind paying a little I have found that Kagi is the best. Sure, the others mentions are free but subpar, even to google. Kagi is simply better but with the downside of a monthly subscription. I love that they are quite transparent with changelogs and stuff when the make changes.

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      Kagi.

      The downside is that it costs $10 per month.

      The upside is:

      • Privacy first
      • You can pin websites to the top of results, promote them so they appear higher, demote them so they appear lower, or have them completely removed
      • Lenses - quickly tell Kagi what type of results you want (News sources, academic articles, forum posts, programming sites, small web, etc.)
      • Snaps - search shortcuts kinda like bangs. Eg, typing @w is the same as typing site:wikipedia.com
      • An actual good AI summary. Completely unobtrusive - only activated when you press the button, doesn’t overextrapolate your request, and will only source the same results that you get from the search
      • Direct image results

      When I first migrated a couple years ago, it was a bit worse than Google but pretty close. Nowadays, I find it to be much much better. It’s honestly close to how Google was back in 2015 before they made it garbage.

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      This isn’t about what you use, it’s about what the majority of the voting public uses and the influence on them.

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    Oh so youre saying that AI companies can control what the AI says?

    So meta letting their AI sext with children was intentional then…