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Matthew Prince 🌥 (@eastdakota)
xcancel.comYesterday a quasi-judicial body in Italy fined @Cloudflare $17 million for failing to go along with their scheme to censor the Internet. The scheme, which even the EU has called concerning, required us within a mere 30 minutes of notification to fully censor from the Internet any sites a shadowy cabal of European media elites deemed against their interests. No judicial oversight. No due process. No appeal. No transparency. It required us to not just remove customers, but also censor our 1.1.1.1 DNS resolver meaning it risked blacking out any site on the Internet. And it required us not just to censor the content in Italy but globally. In other words, Italy insists a shadowy, European media cabal should be able to dictate what is and is not allowed online.
That, of course, is DISGUSTING and even before yesterday’s fine we had multiple legal challenges pending against the underlying scheme. We, of course, will now fight the unjust fine. Not just because it’s wrong for us but because it is wrong for democratic values.
In addition, we are considering the following actions: 1) discontinuing the millions of dollars in pro bono cyber security services we are providing the upcoming Milano-Cortina Olympics; 2) discontinuing Cloudflare’s Free cyber security services for any Italy-based users; 3) removing all servers from Italian cities; and 4) terminating all plans to build an Italian Cloudflare office or make any investments in the country.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. While there are things I would handle differently than the current U.S. administration, I appreciate @JDVance taking a leadership role in recognizing this type of regulation is a fundamental unfair trade issue that also threatens democratic values. And in this case @ElonMusk is right: #FreeSpeech is critical and under attack from an out-of-touch cabal of very disturbed European policy makers.
I will be in DC first thing next week to discuss this with U.S. administration officials and I’ll be meeting with the IOC in Lausanne shortly after to outline the risk to the Olympic Games if @Cloudflare withdraws our cyber security protection.
In the meantime, we remain happy to discuss this with Italian government officials who, so far, have been unwilling to engage beyond issuing fines. We believe Italy, like all countries, has a right to regulate the content on networks inside its borders. But they must do so following the Rule of Law and principles of Due Process. And Italy certainly has no right to regulate what is and is not allowed on the Internet in the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, China, Brazil, India or anywhere outside its borders.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FIGHT AND WE WILL WIN!!!
Found this today on hackernews and I think it is time for me to look for alternatives to cloudflare if their CEO will decide to cut a whole country over fines



not sucking Trump’s administration while denouncing censorship only when your company is affected (oh yeah and all that on Elon’s Twitter)
I wouldn’t compare this to pornhub, pornhub is not responsible for hosting one of the biggest DNS resolvers
So it’s not about what they’re actually doing but what they said about the US administration?
I got to tell you man, the next 3 years you are going to hear a lot of unjustified praise for Trump, because nobody wants to be on the bad side of that madman and the US courts have basically decided that the POTUS is King of America for 4 years at a time. The US just kidnapped the head of state of a foreign nation because he danced. The US will probably invade Greenland soon unless someone calls Trump a very special and beautiful boy who doesn’t need a big slab of ice in the Arctic. Cuba and Chile are in big trouble too unless Little Marco gets tired of gargling the old man’s jizz.
All that said, Italy is wrong, Cloudflare is correct in this case, and the reason to avoid Cloudflare is not because they’re dick riding the Big Orange, but because you should have been avoiding Cloudflare anyway because they over- centralize internet infrastructure.
So your argument is that one of the biggest DNS resolvers should just bow to censorship imposed by a single nation? I’m not really getting what you think they should be doing about Italy’s demand. Are you saying they should just pay the fines and keep doing business there?
That’s not even close to what they said. Are you even actually reading anything?
I am, yeah. Like I say, I’m just not understanding what they’re suggesting Cloudflare should be doing differently in this case, other than not invoking Vance and Musk (which granted is pretty gross to do).
I think it’s the contradiction of trying to fight censor ship while also praising the US government, who is in a stream of heavy censorship. just look at that 60 min episode.
I think the point is that cloudflare is doing the right thing in this specific case, and the CEO is a douchebag anyway.
Gotcha, that makes sense to me; cheers.
They’re saying they should do what they’re doing just without the sucking up to fascists part.